April 8, 2022

290 Dave Jones - Why Value For Value Is Good For Podcasting

Show Notes

Episode Summary

Dave Jones is the co-host of Podcasting 2.0 and co-founder (along with Adam Curry) of PodcastIndex.org, a podcast indexing service that empowers podcasters, app creators, developers and listeners to engage in value for value exchanges.

Dave has an extensive background in systems administration and building software. Today, Dave and Harry discuss the origin story of PodcastIndex.org, the role that cryptocurrency plays, and the reason he and Adam Curry designed it as a decentralized service. Dave expounds on the importance of podcasters requesting a value exchange from their listeners and explains why the progression of technology has come at a major price.

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Key Takeaways

04:19 – Dave Jones joins the podcast to discuss his background as a developer and podcaster

18:28 – Dave recalls where his fascination with technology came from

22:35 – Understanding Programming

29:40 – Assembly language, explained

35:45 – The origin story of PodcastIndex.org

45:31 – Designing a decentralized service

57:16 – Value for Value exchanges

59:06 – Harry takes a moment to ask any listeners who have gotten value out of this show to return some value

1:00:01 – What excites Dave most about the future

1:05:55 – Something Dave has changed his mind about recently and the most misunderstood thing about him

1:12:52 – Harry thanks Dave for joining the show and let’s listeners know where they can connect with him and learn more about Podcast Index

Tweetable Quotes

“I think, as a general rule, people typically know if they love Programming by the time they’re about twenty, at the most.” (23:04) (Dave)

“The biggest hurdle to overcome with podcast apps, and writing one, is that you have to potentially monitor and request data from millions of feeds. So, you have to be constantly tracking what is going on with these millions of feeds and it’s not an easy process.” (37:23) (Dave)

“We need to have a hand in creating an alternative so that podcast app developers don’t have to spend so much time and hundreds of dollars to get up and running.” (42:47) (Dave)

“That’s a real concern in the world today. There’s real free flow of information being cut off from despot regimes. So, it’s not just about, ‘Can Dave get his latest episode of Podcast Junkies?’ It’s about, ‘Can somebody who is living under a terrible regime somewhere in the world get access to truthful news that they may not otherwise be able to get to.” (49:44) (Dave)

“If the host doesn’t tell the listener at the end, ‘Hey, if you got any value out of this, can you please return me some value?’ If you don’t take that extra step, it doesn’t matter what your payment platform is, you’re not gonna be successful.” (58:26) (Dave)

“I think the power to change our mind is one of the things that makes us human. It may be one of the most defining characteristics of being human, is the ability to change your mind about something. And if you don’t, I feel like you’re not living up to full human potential.” (1:06:07) (Dave)

“The progression of technology is not really progress. In a lot of ways, that progress also brings a drawback. For every benefit, there has been a resultant negative. I think that we’re in a Catch-22 as a society where we are having to actively sacrifice things on the altar of technological advancement. And I don’t think that it’s a net positive.” (1:12:17) (Dave)